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Created by: Jack Kenton

8/27/17 @ 5:32pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Hey guys. I saw topic about milking credits from members. But now like I am model. I wanna write about asshole members. I am doing F4F already more then 2 years. I saw many guys here and could say that all members is different. In last time when Flirt did update and appears Badges for members, I saw one strange thing from some guys.
Moslty model wrote about Flirt4Free is not show for free. I am absolutely agree with that. With all of that badges, I saw some members begun proud of the high rank and began to think that the models can for free show something. I met today one guy who was 737 or near with that number badge. I was online in t-shirt and just chatting. Je asked me abouty take off shirt. I said okay if you tip like it usial. That most intersting that he began to blackmail to me that he leave my room and gave me time ( like he said) that I to think. That made me really angry and I just don't understand one thing he is just greedy or he thought that when I see him badge will do all for him. I nothing special asked him or I didn;t ask about big tip or something like that .( If he tipped just 10 it will be enough) I talked with many guys here and was many interesting situation but that was horrible. I find many guys intersting here and glad just to talk and nothing ask for that. But to do some action I can not guys for Free. Spesially for guy who I see in first.

I am sorry for much not perfect English guys but I hope you understand me

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Created by: gofish

8/27/17 @ 7:37pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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First Jack don't worry about the English. Think anyone reading what you said will clearly understand. Sad but true there are some members who like to take advantage of a performer, but the fact is you always control the chat room. Make a note of who that member is for future reference and if if happens again report that member to admin. It is up to you as to what you wish to do in your room so there is no way in which he could blackmale you any way.
Have faith in the site as there are few like him and members who are lot more fun to have in the chat room anyway.

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Created by: paxulla

8/28/17 @ 1:40am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Sorry to hear about that, Jack. I always thought the site should allow performers to review and rank members, just like the members can do on performer profiles. Members wouldn't even need to know that they are being reviewed by performers, or maybe they should, it might improve their behaviour. At least this way performers have some way to let each other know which members to watch out for.

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Created by: gofish

8/28/17 @ 4:00am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: asti

8/28/17 @ 7:47am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I always thought the site should allow performers to review and rank members, just like the members can do on performer profiles. Members wouldn't even need to know that they are being reviewed by performers, or maybe they should, it might improve their behaviour. At least this way performers have some way to let each other know which members to watch out for.

They can and they do. There is a forum for performers' use only. There they can talk about members who beg and never tip, cheats, cheaps... etc. It sounds like you want to be able to see these comments. Are you prepared to have reviews as blunt as some members can be when they cut down a performer for not "meeting their expectations" or not giving them a glimpse for that amazingly cheap 10 credit tip, ($1.00 btw)? This is a business though if those comments were available to members they would more likely not be so blunt.

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Created by: Danny Grant

8/28/17 @ 8:34am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Well, it's flirt4free, and as all sites like that can't be perfect, everywhere are "beggers", i think we should keep respecting every guest, member, vip and all until they don't respect us by asked lot of things for free, and then we have 4 buttons "silence, kick, ban and ignore" we can use them for members which keep bothering us!
About these "badges", the site had a good idea by making that, but is bad also, because we all models give all the attention to members with "high level", but that is not a good thing, because there are lot of guys with a very little badge and they are not rich as "Bill Gates" but they still try to respect us with a tips, or a private even if are not lots of credits, and now i ask everyone, beside that we are working for credits, and "the money" is the point, who deserve to be respected more, a guy which has not much money, but he gives a bit from his little just to get a smile from you, or a very rich guy which gives lots because he can affrod that and he don t care how much he spend?
Whatever, is better we all members and models to stop complain about any thing, and to enjoy all, that life is so fucking short, and we get older with 1 day for every anger which you care about :angel

Have fun people

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Created by: ronnie-uk

8/28/17 @ 4:56pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Hey guys. I saw topic about milking credits from members. But now like I am model. I wanna write about asshole members.

That seems very fair, Jack :winkwink

There can be a lot of "performer bashing" in this forum, which is sad to see. There was a topic here called "asshole models" which was about ONE performer, and was based on a misunderstanding

There is a forum for performers' use only. There they can talk about members who beg and never tip, cheats, cheaps... etc.

Good point, Asti :thumbsup

Some topics are best discussed in the privacy of the Studio and Performers forum

I think we should keep respecting every guest, member, vip and all until they don't respect us by asked lot of things for free, and then we have 4 buttons "silence, kick, ban and ignore" we can use them for members which keep bothering us!

Well said, Danny :thumbsup

It is good for everyone to know about these options

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Created by: Daniel Ryan

8/29/17 @ 3:40am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Have fun people

Finally someone said something good! Thanks Danny, I support it!

And how Danny said: Enjoy all that life is so short.

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Created by: Jack Kenton

8/31/17 @ 4:23pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Created by: deaftn

8/31/17 @ 11:51pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I have a high badge number and if you check my profile you'll find I'm a very generous guy. But more than one model has called me an asshole even though I never ever ask for anything for free. Just my opinion but it seems there are just as many asshole models as there are asshole members. Maybe that has jaded some of us

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Created by: deaftn

8/31/17 @ 11:51pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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9/1/17 @ 7:12am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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With all of that badges, I saw some members begun proud of the high rank and began to think that the models can for free show something. I met today one guy who was 737 or near with that number badge. I was online in t-shirt and just chatting. Je asked me abouty take off shirt. I said okay if you tip like it usial. That most intersting that he began to blackmail to me that he leave my room and gave me time ( like he said) that I to think. That made me really angry and I just don't understand one thing he is just greedy or he thought that when I see him badge will do all for him.

It's a two way streak. While its great that you overlooked this member's badge number, I feel like most models don't and have this high expectation for higher ranks. When nothing comes from it, they're disappointed/angry.

Honestly, like the VIP status, I've noticed that these badges can be more of a burden than good. They give off the impression that higher ranks are 'bigger spenders' which isn't always the case. Sometimes its a case of longevity. As it was mentioned on a previous thread (IIRC "improvement to site"?), the VIP "special attention" is something I wish we could mask; I don't think changing color schemes work. I keep it to have access to old shows.

But to the topic at hand, yes there are A-hole members but that comes with a site like this, no? I'm pretty sure performers deal with it everyday (no matter what the user's badge number is) and every hour. Its up to performers know how to address them, some ignore, some ban when pestered (which is a bit extreme), some give in and some follow through when tipped.
:twocents

Whatever, is better we all members and models to stop complain about any thing, and to enjoy all, that life is so fucking short, and we get older with 1 day for every anger which you care about :angel

Have fun people

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Created by: gofish

9/1/17 @ 1:42pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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For some of us members who have been a round on the site for a number of years the site was actually a much better place even though there were some extreme restriction. The site has made vast improvements over the years, but at the same time gone lax on many rules. Think much of the blame has to be place on the toy that seems to have found its way into so many rooms. There is far to much nudity in open chat which basically has attracted viewers who see this as the norm. These type of viewers tend to expect a lot from performers as one can see rooms flooded with requests. There is a lack of interest to actually take the time to get to know the performer as a person and not merely a sex object.
Whispering seems to have over taken chat rooms making many rooms seem empty. I understand that some members seem to prefer this, but sort of makes one wonder what is a chat room all about. As to why performers now see whispering as the norm when they talk is another big question ...might be why so many rooms seem empty these days.
When it comes the number code attached to each member it really should be considered a badge of pride and not entitlement. Assholes members and performers will always be a round and after a while doubt they will be round for long.
Sorry for the rant, but really miss seeing a lot of very cool performers and some pretty woow members who really rocked the site.

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Created by: myelmo

9/2/17 @ 8:50pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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i like to have fun and go :offtopic

on the forums so everybody know i am the asshole member on the forum :hitit

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Created by: deaftn

9/3/17 @ 9:58pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Elmo if you become the asshole forum member I will just have to spank your ass good. Lol

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Created by: louisphillippe

9/5/17 @ 4:14am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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spoken like an :angel

Both sides have pros and cons... :thumbsup

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Created by: Anwar D

9/5/17 @ 4:31am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I don't really agree with the term used-asshole members- everyone has his/her own personality traits that define the way they get in contact, socialize and perceive the world around them. You will meet all kinds of people, just be yourself, that is the most attractive trait. Good luck and relax

Mario

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Created by: perfessir

9/5/17 @ 5:10pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Hey guys. I saw topic about milking credits from members. But now like I am model. I wanna write about asshole members.
I am sorry for much not perfect English guys but I hope you understand me

Referring to your customers that way is not good marketing. Some certainly are assholes, but you shouldn't call them that. Word gets around, and it shows in your room and your stage presence.

Since I am not a performer, I can absolutely confirm that I have seen some asshole customers. I dislike asshole customers far more than I dislike models who haven't yet figured out how to maximize their revenue.

One thing to do about those asshole customers is to ignore them. Eventually most will go away, because they are bullies or control freaks who want attention on the cheap.

It is also very effective when someone says "show ass" or "see feet" for you to respond using their words: show credits or see credits. Then just leave it at that. You have acknowledged them and have effectively said to them the same thing they said to you.

It is also effective to respond: This site is flirt for free, tip for show, private for directing.

If all those things won't fix a real problem customer, then eject him. There used to be a customer on here who wore a badge of honor by admitting he had been ejected more often than any other customer. Make his day when he shows up again.

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Created by: myelmo

9/5/17 @ 6:03pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Elmo if you become the asshole forum member I will just have to spank your ass good. Lol

calling all models :jerkoff

Deaf need a spanko model

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Created by: louisphillippe

9/10/17 @ 12:16am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Not a very good idea to call the hand that feeds you
an ass***le :angel

There would be no models without members.... :angel

and vise versa.... :evil

We all owe respect to each other ( something more obvious
and frequent than yeas ago... :angel

)

Just my :twocents

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