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Created by: Matthew Cool

12/30/14 @ 3:51pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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hey buddy i just see your post , you sayit well ! they need to understend that we are no t here for free request or to meke free shows that site is no t worcking like that becouse of that 'fake members' models quit

I`m patient for quitting. just I know that everyone has black and white lines. maybe my white line is coming ;))

I wish you and all models have a great new year ;)

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Created by: stinks

3/24/15 @ 11:33am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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member agreement not to w. is for tippers and non tippers alike but in this the forums is not our friend

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Created by: Arktur X

3/27/15 @ 7:00am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Lately it seems the forums have became a battleground between tippers and non tippers. I have kept quiet for a while but enough is enough. Why don't all of us members and models alike try something new. It's called showing a little respect. I am fortunate to be able to show my love and respect for a model by tipping but some of us are not so fortunate. We don't know the life circumstances of those non tippers. Maybe they took a hard knock from the economy or maybe their money is taken for medical expenses or hell maybe all they have is enough for groceries and life expenses. Let's not judge them but respect them. If the models don't want them in their room all they have to do is say so. If the other members are so irritated by them simply go to another room or maybe say hi get to know them. You may just find some wonderful people. It is not our place to judge so lets all be friendly and have a good time. after all the sites name is flirt4free. not flirt4tips or drama4free.

golden words intelligent person! Sogsen I agree with you completely! people need to stay! all of us!

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Created by: Alan Mike

4/3/15 @ 5:05pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Lately it seems the forums have became a battleground between tippers and non tippers. I have kept quiet for a while but enough is enough. Why don't all of us members and models alike try something new. It's called showing a little respect. I am fortunate to be able to show my love and respect for a model by tipping but some of us are not so fortunate. We don't know the life circumstances of those non tippers. Maybe they took a hard knock from the economy or maybe their money is taken for medical expenses or hell maybe all they have is enough for groceries and life expenses. Let's not judge them but respect them. If the models don't want them in their room all they have to do is say so. If the other members are so irritated by them simply go to another room or maybe say hi get to know them. You may just find some wonderful people. It is not our place to judge so lets all be friendly and have a good time. after all the sites name is flirt4free. not flirt4tips or drama4free.

U r so right Mr.Unfortunatelly,i saw some models wich are on here just 4 ask tips...as i saw members who ask insistently to do things just for them,again and again without reach and show the minimum respect for model,and here i can include some VIP members.
This is said by one generous model,wich he loves to everybody who's in his room to be happy and have good time on there,becouse for this it's suppose to be all on there.

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Created by: Tyler Masters

4/8/15 @ 12:56pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Quite the topic here. Two things are clear though.
If your don't tip don't request that a model do things for your pleasure, but rather that those members who were able to tip for doing so.
If a model should chose to ban members from his or her room that is their option, but trust me it will backfire on them as members will tend to avoid models who do that.
It is all about having a good time and treating both models and members as you would friends.
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Go Fish,

Not much relevance to the topic but I wanted to say I am so happy to see people like yourself on here, TRULY amazing person and has made my time on here as a model a great experience thus far to say the least. It all comes down to respect and as a model on here respect to me is a serious 2 way street and I have gained a lot of respect in the last couple weeks on here for sure as I have made sure to be as respectful as i can be as well. I will say that I may have been a little too passive with regards to the tipping situation because too many people were and have been staying around to get as much as they can with no tips or private, but lots of request for me to flex, show my butt, my d..k and such. I am hoping that by the way I have started to create my place on the site will allow this mutaul respect among the members and I wont every have to get to the point where I have to be pushy to get tips. As you have seen I put myself out there and enjoy the people as much as possible and engage them as often as well. Just hope that me being me and doing this does not lead to complacency among some members to not tip or go private because of my free spirited making everyone happy attitude. If I had the ability to do this for free and had no financial obligations I would do this all the time with no worries but its not the case so its a matter of finding a nice sweet spot with the members and myself. I want to thank you again and again for all your help and feedback you have give to help ease me along being new on the site. YOU R AWESOME and never forget it.

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Created by: Kendall G

4/14/15 @ 1:52am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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The biggest thing that really bothers me is when you go into Party Chat and the room all of a sudden becomes flooded with customers who don't want to tip. They see the 'Party Chat" sign and figure there must be a free show here or something and just sit there and observe and make requests. And then when you ask them to tip so that the party doesn't end early, there's no response (and its the same with VIP, Premium, and Basic user). And then once the Party Chat is over, the amount of people in the room drops like flies. :bulb

I think what needs to be incorporated is a fee to enter the party chat. I recommend F4F start charging a fee to users of 25 credits or more (a fee amount that should be able to be adjusted by the model) to enter a room with a 'Party Chat' going on. I mean like c'mon - just like any party in life, you don't just get in for free unless its a wack party, or unless you're a girl getting in before 11p or something :winkwink

. Plus users are already able to preview a room before entering it. :bulb

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Created by: gofish

4/14/15 @ 12:40pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I think what needs to be incorporated is a fee to enter the party chat. I recommend F4F start charging a fee to users of 25 credits or more (a fee amount that should be able to be adjusted by the model) to

enter a room with a 'Party Chat' going on. I mean like c'mon - just like any party in life, you don't just get in for free unless its a wack party, or unless you're a girl getting in before 11p or something :winkwink

. Plus users are already able to preview a room before entering it. :bulb

I feel this really needs to be started. It will cut back the free viewing. I thought is was just me having this issue, but I've been observing many model party chats, and have seen this as a BIG common issue.

Kendall I understand your frustration and yes charging a fee would discourage viewers who just come to watch, but it could also discourage those member without credits who are willing to spend their time in the room chatting and making it more exciting. In party chat I do believe you are must more open to do more thing at the wishes of any member able to tip.
You will always get viewers flocking to your room if you are in party chat, and the way round it is to engage them in some talk. There is much more to this than just getting naked and stuff. The members who you want to come to your room over and over are the ones who feel they can connect with you and know they are going to have a good time. Hope all of this makes sense since
both models and members should be able to leave knowing that they had a good time.
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Created by: brett025

4/14/15 @ 1:17pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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. Plus users are already able to preview a room before entering it. :bulb

I feel this really needs to be started. It will cut back the free viewing. I thought is was just me having this issue, but I've been observing many model party chats, and have seen this as a BIG common issue.

What you are suggesting by charging a fee to enter already exists, it's called a Group Show. I prefer the Group over Party for the exact reasons you state.

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Created by: ronnie-uk

4/14/15 @ 7:15pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Brett

I posted a similar comment here (*).

There have been lots of (understandable) moans about non-tippers in Party Chat. If performers want every member to pay a minimum admission charge for Party Chat, then I agree that a Group Show is the answer.

Every performer who does Party Chat is able to do a Group Show.

(*) http://www.flirt4free.com/forums/threads.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=12805&pg=8

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Created by: ken73

4/14/15 @ 9:07pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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My experience with parties: ten seconds after I tip, the party ends. The model is using the party to get someone to take him private. :twocents

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Created by: stinks

4/14/15 @ 10:37pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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My experience with parties: ten seconds after I tip, the party ends. The model is using the party to get someone to take him private. :twocents

models should never end a party only the last tipper should be the one to end the party :bulb

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Created by: zyxwv098

4/15/15 @ 1:34am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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My experience with parties: ten seconds after I tip, the party ends. The model is using the party to get someone to take him private. :twocents

models should never end a party only the last tipper should be the one to end the party

Models are free to use party chat in whatever way they choose. I do not recall ever hearing that party chat HAD to be used in only one way. And correct me if I'm mistaken...only a model can end a party chat, as it is the model's room, not the tippers' room. If the model chooses to end party chat, then that is his prerogative.

It is up to each model to use party chat as he feels is most effective for his needs. In some cases, if the momentum has fallen off and tips are minimal at best, then he might decide to end party chat and accept a member's offer to go into private. Of course, if momentum is strong and members are tipping very well, and THEN he ends party chat to go into private, that may result in some negative feelings, but that is the choice he made...and members will let their disapproval be known by their vacating of the room and the lack of future tips for that model.

But again, it is the model's decision to use party chat as HE feels is best for HIM, not for the members.

My :twocents

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Created by: Anal Steven

4/15/15 @ 8:39am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Lately it seems the forums have became a battleground between tippers and non tippers. I have kept quiet for a while but enough is enough. Why don't all of us members and models alike try something new. It's called showing a little respect. I am fortunate to be able to show my love and respect for a model by tipping but some of us are not so fortunate. We don't know the life circumstances of those non tippers. Maybe they took a hard knock from the economy or maybe their money is taken for medical expenses or hell maybe all they have is enough for groceries and life expenses. Let's not judge them but respect them. If the models don't want them in their room all they have to do is say so. If the other members are so irritated by them simply go to another room or maybe say hi get to know them. You may just find some wonderful people. It is not our place to judge so lets all be friendly and have a good time. after all the sites name is flirt4free. not flirt4tips or drama4free.

I really took a chill through the body but a pleasant shiver, you are a person with a very pleasant mintalitate

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Created by: ronnie-uk

4/15/15 @ 8:44am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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My experience with parties: ten seconds after I tip, the party ends. The model is using the party to get someone to take him private. :twocents

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Created by: stinks

4/15/15 @ 8:54am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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you are right models have the right to do a party how ever the want to and you are all so right that the biggest tippers I have ever seen on here have right not to do a party

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Created by: stinks

4/15/15 @ 9:31am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Yes, Ken. And I think this is happening more now that performers can whisper. Some performers have whispered "please take me pvt" in the middle of parties. I think it is bad form, and I don't respond

[Don't want to complicate this Tippers and Non-Tippers topic. That is why I bumped the Party v Group topic...]

models tell me all time that they is too many free members in room and not to tip that he will do a group chat and than after disrespecting the party like that he wonder why I did not do the group

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Created by: stinks

4/15/15 @ 9:45am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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to my friends in room where is the party now-I know you guys do not like the forums but somebody tell me in the rooms-I miss the party

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Created by: Kendall G

4/15/15 @ 8:26pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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To be honest i think there is foul play on both side (models and customers). I have never ended my show after receiving a tip from someone during party chat. The only time mines would end is if it was automated to end by the system due to not enough tips, or if I end it after never receiving a tip during the party and I saw people just observing. I stand by the idea of charging to get into a party chat. because it's open chat and anyone can view. Yes i agree that it will make it more similar to group chat, but not necessarily, because group chat the customers pledge and they are guaranteed a pvt show. Whereas, anyone can view Party Chat. Party chat usually models will have work to keep the party going and not let it end. So I think its a good idea that should be added to the site. Also, if a model is abusing Party Chat and ending party chats after getting tipped, then they deserve to be reported :guitar

But if they're just ending it due to the suspense slowing down in the room, then it's understandable.

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Created by: Lenny M

4/16/15 @ 11:14am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Lately it seems the forums have became a battleground between tippers and non tippers. I have kept quiet for a while but enough is enough. Why don't all of us members and models alike try something new. It's called showing a little respect. I am fortunate to be able to show my love and respect for a model by tipping but some of us are not so fortunate. We don't know the life circumstances of those non tippers. Maybe they took a hard knock from the economy or maybe their money is taken for medical expenses or hell maybe all they have is enough for groceries and life expenses. Let's not judge them but respect them. If the models don't want them in their room all they have to do is say so. If the other members are so irritated by them simply go to another room or maybe say hi get to know them. You may just find some wonderful people. It is not our place to judge so lets all be friendly and have a good time. after all the sites name is flirt4free. not flirt4tips or drama4free.

sometimes i sad when cant keep party, but i never thought "f%ng freeloaders", i prefer good talk, dat important, but i not understand guys who just ignore me in my room and not talk :D

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Created by: ken73

4/16/15 @ 11:19am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Lenny, you are sweet and smart guy. Anyone who chats with you would learn that.

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