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Created by: Sencer

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Start working harder .......not that part!

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Created by: ronnie-uk

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Thought it would be nice to give a bump to this positive topic :winkwink

When I joined the site a few years ago the novelty of doing private shows with specially selected performers was incredibly exciting. I still love that, but some of the novelty wears off for me and other longer term members (understandably). However, I don't think that a yearning for "the good old days" should detract from overall views about the current male performers.

There are lots of wonderful guys here. Beautiful and talented. Exciting new performers and established stars who continue to provide great shows for their fans.

So many that I wish I could spend more time with... :angel

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There are lots of wonderful guys here. Beautiful and talented. Exciting new performers and established stars who continue to provide great shows for their fans.

So many that I wish I could spend more time with... :angel

I don't buy the "everything is wonderful and we are all a happy family"delusional idea....
Models come and go in a week or so BEFORE we can even get to know them...

It used to be an overabundance of members for a selected few awesome models...

Some of both are still around... Lately there are easily no less than 300 models per shift.
The great majority will be gone in the next 4 weeks or so...
:evil

Now the models are a lot more than any membership can possibly maintain. :evil

It is called "market saturation"... Either the quality and staying
power of the models increases or the price of the memberships price should decrease
proportionally. :drinkup

The status quo is unsustainable for the long time members and models...This is just
another site supplying average service with below average products.
:orglaugh

What will it be fellows?? :orglaugh

More superstars staying for a few years
or privates for $2 a minute as it used to be??? :bulb

Somehow the golden rule of providing an excellent very special service for the right
price and great quality has been forgotten somewhere.... :evil

I'm sure members that have been here for over 5 to 8 years would agree :guitar

Just my

and very personal biased opinion fellows!!...

Sacre blue!!.. :thumbsup

No need to guillotine me for just a damn opinion mes amis!!
:guitar

Cheers and let the games begin..!! :drinkup

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Created by: ronnie-uk

2/8/15 @ 11:03am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks for your comments, Louis.

I have always regarded "so many hot models" as a positive thing for the paying customers here. It is arguably better to have too much choice than too little.

I can see why you suggest it is a negative thing to have so many models. However, I am puzzled when you say "this is just another site supplying average service with below average products".

Some of the most beautiful guys on the planet are here :angel

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2/9/15 @ 1:16am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Too much of anything cheapens the product...... :evil

Like too much sun makes a desert or or too much ice becomes an iceberg...
I much rather have 1/10 of the models available now, if they were better
trained,more educated,less mercenary,too much in a hurry and able to carry a
conversation without the "give me a tip...give me credits...take me private.."
I know that is the way they make some money but....Get my drift???
I give, and give gladly but never under the gun or extreme pressure...
:winkwink

Too many choices aren't always good...in fact they are BAD because
the "most beautiful guys" are in other sites where they get paid better wages,steady
work and there isn't so much competition. :winkwink

...seldom a model can survive
too long here.

I could give you the name of at least 8 other sites that are less expensive with a much
higher quality of performers...fewer guys that have stayed around for at least 5 to 8 years...
:angel

Did you ever think or crossed your mind that some come here just for company???
Or to form a friendship with a pal or a buddy???..and not everything is sexually inclined
I believe...

When a site has a revolving door where models come and go by the hundreds monthly
something is VERY wrong

and I want all my models to do well,be happy and stay
around for over a week or a month... :angel

otherwise it is money wasted in my case. :angel

I don't want a banquet or an all you can eat buffet :evil

but a gourmet
dinner peacefully enjoyed by both... :angel

I know there are a lot of great guys here but they won't stay long enough to establish
a rapport or a friendly relationship with them... :angel

I'm very friendly with all the
"old timers" still left from 2005 or so.....
I know we aren't going to agree in any of these points and I politely ask you to excuse my quirky opinions...
Obviously we both look for something different in this site.. :angel

What is good for you is not good for me I think... :winkwink

Anyhow I send you my best wishes and thanks for your opinions... :drinkup

A bien tot!!... :thumbsup

and these are just my private,personal and one sided ideas.. :drinkup

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Created by: ronnie-uk

2/9/15 @ 11:20am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks for the explanation, Louis. Always good to see your interesting and entertaining comments :thumbsup

I bumped this topic because the forums can become very negative. The Technical Support forum is all about problems, inevitably. The General Discussions forum has been rather dominated by one guy who is always moaning (but has been giving glowing reviews to his favourite female performers).

This forum should be all about what we like to see, with one or two fun topics to add variety. Not moaning about what we don't like.

There are lots of members who don't contribute to the forums, but are huge fans of many of the wonderful models here. It would be great to see them here, rather than the same small group of familiar faces - including me... :winkwink

Many members may be shy about posting individual topics, which is why I think it is good to have favourite/top/best topics here which provide a great opportunity for them to include those performers who deserve a mention. Talking of which...

Thank you for posting recently in the Flirt4Free Top Five Topic (a). The 5 wonderful guys you mentioned are a huge credit to this site and I am sure they should feature more in the forums. I am sure you won't mind if I give them a mention here:

Stefano

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/stefano/about.php

Conrado

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/conrado/about.php

Leoboy

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/vavrin/about.php

Vavrin

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/vavrin/about.php

Ben Andrews

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/ben_andrews/about.php

(a) http://www.flirt4free.com/forums/threads.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=18319&pg=1

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Created by: ronnie-uk

2/9/15 @ 1:53pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Oops. Correct Leoboy link:

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/leoboy/about.php

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Created by: John Blastar

2/9/15 @ 6:17pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Here are quiet too much model's :evil

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Created by: ken73

2/9/15 @ 11:55pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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On the subject of models coming and going- Bob Chiko's 20th birthday is Feb 11. He and i chatted about that on Saturday. I just tried to send him a gift only to get the message that his bio is not available. I really hope this means he found a better paying job that he likes. He is a cute and sweet guy.

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Thank you for posting recently in the Flirt4Free Top Five Topic (a). The 5 wonderful guys you mentioned are a huge credit to this site and I am sure they should feature more in the forums. I am sure you won't mind if I give them a mention here:

Stefano

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/stefano/about.php

Conrado

http ://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/conrado/about.php

Leoboy

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/ bios/vavrin/about.php

Vavrin

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/vavrin/about.php

Ben Andrews

http://www.flirt4free.com/models/bios/ben_andrews/about.php

(a) http://www.flirt4free.com/forums/threads.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=18319&pg=1

:thumbsup

Thanks for mentioning some of the most wonderful guys I've have ever known. :thumbsup

They have been my number one "close friends" from the first private I ever had.

Each one is a smart, caring, friendly,super intelligent, educated and amazing looking guys. :angel

.And I'm talking movie star looks;in fact many movie stars would wish to have their looks.
:guitar

I was the first private of one of them and show him the ropes so to speak. :angel

...
we have been great friends ever since...the other ones I found by accident and we keep in close
contact since...well...the Dark Ages when privates were $2 a minute and cameras in
black and white.. :orglaugh

...around 2005/07 or so... :drinkup

As long as they are here I'll be around but even if they leave we'll be good friends
forever... :winkwink

Thank you for your postings as usual very well informed,fun,factual and accurate. :drinkup

and with my :twocents

I send you again my thanks! :thumbsup

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2/10/15 @ 5:43pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: ken73

2/10/15 @ 6:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks very much, Brett025. I appreciate the info about Bob.
:drinkup

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Created by: Yujun

2/16/15 @ 7:26pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Before I discovered Flirt4Free I visited a number of gay sites which showed videos and photosets. Some would have 100 or more models, but only a few of these would be hot models that I wanted to see more of.

On Flirt4Free I have spotted literally hundreds of hot models. The choice is absolutely wonderful. I have a huge collection of Flirt4Free "favourites" (including some I have haven't visited because they have not been on-line at the right time, or disappear from the site before I get the chance).

There are some lovely models here who are really friendly, and have done perfect shows exactly as I want. I would love to be able to do private shows with them regularly. I would do so if the competition wasn't so hot and I had more credits, but it leaves me feeling a bit guilty. There may be an element of "unfaithfulness" attached to the guilt, and I am not sure if that is a reasonable reaction.

Thanks to all the lovely models who have given me such a great time here, and apologies to any who feel they deserve more loyal support. For now the best I can say is: "So many hot models ... not enough credits".

I will be glad to talk with you do not always want only sex sometimes you just want to talk. Aims to become rich here is stupid. I like to communicate in my town because I have no friends of gays

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Created by: stinks

3/21/15 @ 11:59am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Too much of anything cheapens the product...... :evil

...seldom a model can survive
too long here.

I could give you the name of at least 8 other sites that are less expensive with a much
higher quality of performers...fewer guys that have stayed around for at least 5 to 8 years...
:angel

Did you ever think or crossed your mind that some come here just for company???
Or to form a friendship with a pal or a buddy???..and not everything is sexually inclined
I believe...

When a site has a revolving door where models come and go by the hundreds monthly
something is VERY wrong

and I want all my models to do well,be happy and stay
around for over a week or a month... :angel

otherwise it is money wasted in my case. :angel

I don't want a banquet or an all you can eat buffet :evil

but a gourmet
dinner peacefully enjoyed by both... :angel

I know there are a lot of great guys here but they won't stay long enough to establish
a rapport or a friendly relationship with them... :angel

What is good for you is not good for me I think... :winkwink

Anyhow I send you my best wishes and thanks for your opinions... :drinkup

A bien tot!!... :thumbsup

and these are just my private,personal and one sided ideas.. :drinkup

for Ronnie to get the cutest guys on the planet for you Louis to get smart guys and for me to get good open chat with no whispering we need over 300 models on here at any one time.
:bulb

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Created by: ronnie-uk

3/21/15 @ 8:31pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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How do members choose which model to visit when several favourites are on-line at the same time?

As stated earlier, I really should visit the performer who has just given me the best private show. What often happens is that I tend to choose on this basis:

1. a model who is currently doing Group Chat

2. a model with the hottest profile pic

3. a model who sends and replies to personal Inbox messages (not spam or gifts)

4. a model who I haven't seen on-line for a while

5. a new "favourite" who I haven't visited yet

6. a model who is currently doing Party Chat (a less significant factor than Group Chat)

Other members may have a totally different approach, which is right for them. I am sure models would be interested to see what factors influence members' choices of which model to visit.

Thanks for bumping this topic, stinks :thumbsup

I won't take the "300 models" point in your last post too seriously :winkwink

We don't really want 200 models posting topics here saying "why are things so quiet?"

I have highlighted an earlier post to which no-one responded, which is a bit disappointing. I think it is good to discuss the Flirt4Free site here, and how members interact with the male performers. It would be good to get some interesting comments. Better than posting the name of another city/town that no-one has ever heard of ... :winkwink

Is that rather bitchy? Sorry - couldn't help it

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3/21/15 @ 10:05pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks for bumping this topic, stinks :thumbsup

I won't take the "300 models" point in your last post too seriously :winkwink

We don't really want 200 models posting topics here saying "why are things so quiet?"

Is that rather bitchy? Sorry - couldn't help it

I've got no problem with naming practically unheard of cities...but as for the other part of your post...

For the most part, I prefer to just talk to the performers, in open chat or in private. On occasion I take them private for something more sexual, but it's either when the need is urgent (someone left the model hanging) or because the model wants to get off before logging out. Otherwise, I save that sort of thing for group shows and party chats (not so much of the latter, though--not a fan of them).

I don't know if the performers like it or not that I really only talk with them...the Americans and Colombians don't seem to mind, but the Eastern Europeans are surprised that I don't ask for more. I also usually limit the chats to only a few minutes due to budgetary constraints (and because I know they have fans waiting for more and longer interactions with them than I can manage). For the most part, it works out all right: we catch up, talk briefly about something new, and then we end our chat. It lets me get to know the performer, and it gives the performer a chance to relax and in some cases recover.

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Created by: stinks

3/21/15 @ 11:15pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks for bumping this topic, stinks :thumbsup

I won't take the "300 models" point in your last post too seriously :winkwink

We don't really want 200 models posting topics here saying "why are things so quiet?"

not all model's rooms are quiet some are doing very good on here but I will not take your point of 200 models coming to a dead forums too seriously.

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3/22/15 @ 1:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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It would be good to get some interesting comments. Better than posting the name of another city/town that no-one has ever heard of ... :winkwink

Cities/towns that no-one has ever heard of? Not even the people who live in those cities/towns? :winkwink

I have found the cities game to be challenging and educational. Until I started playing this game I wouldn't have believed there are cities with a population of 4 or 5 million that I had never even heard of. Better than posting the names of which models have the cutest nostrils or the sexiest elbows :winkwink

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not all model's rooms are quiet some are doing very good on here but I will not take your point of 200 models coming to a dead forums too seriously.

:thumbsup

True STINKS :thumbsup

several models are practically impossible
to get a private with :winkwink

and I can name more than 10 that you really
need to make an effort to catch them when they first start broadcasting... :thumbsup

The early bird catches " the worm" so to speak .
:angel

The good models never have enough time it seems.
:winkwink

I bet you STINK know which ones I'm referring to?

Just my :twocents

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